The two sisters Soma and Sakulà heard that the king would go to see the Blessed One after his mid-day meal, and they approached him at the time he was taking his meal. They said to the king, `Great king, if that is so, worship the feet of the Blessed One for the sake of Soma and Sakula and inquire whether the Blessed One is with few ailments, without troubles and has a light living.'

Then king Pasenadi of Kosala, after the meal was over approached the Blessed One, worshipped, sat on a side and said to the Blessed One. `Venerable sir, my sisters Soma and Sakulà too worship the Blessed One with their heads at your feet and asks whether the Blessed One is with few ailments, without trouble and has a light living?'

ßGreat king, hasn't the sisters Soma and Sakula any other messenger?'

ßVenerable sir, my sisters Soma and Sakula heard that I was approaching you, after my mid-day meal. They approached me when I was partaking the mid-day meal and said. Great king if you approach the Blessed One, worship the feet of the Blessed One for the sake of Soma and Sakula and inquire whether the Blessed One is with few ailments, without troubles and has a light living.'

Then king Pasenadi of Kosala said, `Venerable sir, I heard that the recluse Gotama said this. There is no possibility that a recluse or Brahmin could acknowledge, knowledge and vision of everything without leaving out anything. Venerable sir, those who say, the recluse Gotama said, there is no possibility that a recluse or Brahmin couldhave knowledge and vision of everything without leaving out anything. How far are they saying the words of the Blessed One, and not insulting the Blessed One falsely. How much of it is according the Teaching and are they saying the words of the Blessed One?'

ßGreat king, those who say, the recluse Gotama said, there is no possibility that a recluse or Brahmin could acknowledge, knowledge and vision of everything, without leaving out anything, are not saying my words. They insult me falsely.'

King Pasenadi of Kosala spoke to the general Wadådabha. `General, who was it that brought these words to the inner chambers of the palace?'

ßGreat king, it was Sanjaya âkàsagotta.'

Then king Pasenadi of Kosala called a certain man and said. `Good man, call the Brahmin Sanjaya âkàsagotta in my words, tell him the king wants you,' He agreed, approached the Brahmin Sanjaya âkàsagotta and said. `Sir, king Pasenadi of Kosala wants you.'

Meanwhile king Pasenadi of Kosala said to the Blessed One. `Venerable sir, has the Blessed One said something else on account of this? Which people may have not understood correctly? How does the Blessed One recall saying something pertaining to this?'

ßGreat king I remember saying something like this. There is no possibility that a recluse or Brahmin, could know and see everything at one and the same time.'

ßVenerable sir, you have said with reasons. There is no possibility that a recluse or Brahmin, could know and see everything at one and the same time. Venerable sir, there are four castes. They are warrior, Brahmin, one of the common grade and slaves. `Great king of these four castes, two are thought to be superior, that is the warrior and Brahmin castes, in the matter of revering, paying attention, clasping hands as respect, and to associate with respect.

ßVenerable, sir, I do not question, about the here and now, it is here after I question. Venerable sir, of these four castes of warriors, Brahmins, the common man and the slaves is there any difference?'

ßVenerable sir, when these four castes of warriors, Brahmins, ordinary people and slaves are endowed with these five attributes of exertion, will there be a difference among them?'

ßGreat king, I will tell you the difference in their exerting. There are two elephants, or horses or bulls to be trained, of them one trained and tamed, the other untrained and untamed. Of them which one would be trained tamed and come to the category of the trained, is it the trained tamed one or the untrained untamed one?'

ßVenerable sir, the trained, tamed one will be trained and tamed, and will come to the category of the trained.'

ßGreat king in the same manner, whatever could be attained by one with faith, few ailments, without craftiness and fraudulence, with aroused effort and wisdom, thatcould be attained by one without faith, many ailments, crafty, fraudulent, lazy, without effort andnot wise is not a possibility.'

ßVenerable sir, the Blessed One said with reasons'Venerable sir, when these four castes of warriors, Brahmins, ordinary people and slaves are endowed with these five attributes of exertion, will there be a difference among them here?'

ßGreat king, I do not see any difference in the release or the released. Like one man would light a fire with dry branches leaves and twigs. Another would light with dry Sal wood, another with dry mango wood and yet another with dry wood apple sticks. Great king in these fires lighted with different kinds of wood, do you see any difference in the flame, colour or the lustre?'

ßNo, venerable sir.'

ßGreat king in the same manner, in that fire created by effort, and born out of exertion, I do not see any difference in the release or the released.

ßVenerable sir, the Blessed One speaks with reasons. Venerable sir, are there gods?'

ßGreat king, why do you ask? Venerable sir, are there gods?'

ßVenerable sir, are there gods, who would return here, or gods who would not return here?'

ßGreat king, those gods with a troubled mind return here and the others without a troubled mind do not return here.'

Then the general Widådabha asked the Blessed One. `Venerable sir, do the gods with an untroubled mind chase out or banish the gods with a troubled mind?'

ßIt occurred to venerable ânanda, general Widådabha is the son of king Pasenadi of Kosala, and I'm the son of the Blessed One. The son should speak to the son. Then venerable ânanda spoke to the general Widådabha. `General, I will question you on this, answer as it pleases you. Within the kingdom of king Pasenadi of Kosala, where he wields power, could he chase out or banish recluses, Brahmins, pure or impure ones, those leading the holy life or those not leading the holy life?'

ßWithin the kingdom of king Pasenadi of Kosala, where he wields power, it is possible for him to chase out or banish recluses, Brahmins, pure or impure ones, those leading the holy life or those not leading the holy life.'

ßGeneral, have you heard of the gods of the thirty-three?'

ßI have heard of the gods of the retinue of thirty-three, and also this king Pasenadi of Kosala has heard of the gods of the retinue of thirty-three.'

ßGeneral could king of Kosala chase out or banish gods of the thirty-three from there?'

ßEven gaining a sight of those gods is not possible to king Pasenadi of Kosala. How could he chase out or banish them from there?'

ßGeneral in the same manner, the troubled gods who come here, do not even see the untroubled gods who do not come here, so how could they chase them out or banish them from there?'

King Pasenadi of Kosala asked the Blessed One. `Venerable sir, what is the name of this bhikkhu?'

ßGreat king his name is ânanda.'

ßIndeed, good ânanda has pleasant ways, speaks with reasons. Venerable sir, is there Brahmà?'

ßGreat king, why do you ask? `Is there Brahmà?'

ßAre there Brahmà who return here and those that do not return here?'

ßGreat king the troubled Brahmàs return here and those not troubled do not return here.'

Then a certain man said to king Pasenadi of Kosala. `Great king, the Brahmin Sanjaya âkàsagotta has come,' King Pasenadi of Kosala said to the Brahmin Sanjaya âkàsagotta. `Brahmin who brought these words to the inner chambers of the palace.'

ßGreat king, the general Widådabha did so.'

General Widådabha said. `Great king it is the Brahmin Sanjaya âkàsagotta.'

Then a certain man said to king Pasenadi of Kosala. `Great king it is time to go,' Then king Pasenadi of Kosala said to the Blessed One. `I asked the Blessed One, about the knowledge and vision of all. The Blessed One explained it to me. I like the reply and I'm satisfied. I asked the Blessed One about the purity of the four castesThe Blessed One explained it to me. I like the reply and I'm satisfied. I asked the Blessed One about the superior gods. The Blessed One explained it to me. I like the reply and I'm satisfied. I asked the Blessed One, about the Great Brahmàs The Blessed One explained it to me. I like the reply and I'm satisfied. Whatever questions I asked, the Blessed One explained them, now I'm happy and satisfied. Venerable sir, now we go. There is much work to do.'

ßGreat king if you think it is fit, do so.û

Then king Pasenadi of Kosala got up from his seat, worshipped, circumambulated the Blessed One and went away.